I was thinking about all the crap I've read online about picking up women and how much of it contradicts each other. So I thought I would list the different seduction methods out there.
This way you can pick the one that is right for you.
1.) Horniness Overdrive
Traditional pickup will tell you not to waste time getting a woman horny, but try to make her emotional instead. And that horniness doesn't work on women the same way it does for men. This isn't true.
Women want sex just as much as men. One of their main drives is pleasure just like us. But they have a reputation to worry about. To make women so horny they literally attack you once they get the chance here are the three requirements:
1.) Physically attractive male
2.) Foreplay (usually lots of dancing)
3.) Alcohol (not a requirement, but makes things a hell of a lot easier...especially when you are fighting logistics as alcohol will keep her horny until you find a place)
This strategy really falls into two groups. But both involve the dance club (
dancing is the secret weapon to making women horny). 1.)
The Skills Method. This involves being a decent dancer and confidently dancing with other women. To pull with this method you should be very attractive (especially when it comes to your body). 2.)
Sex with Friends (and acquaintances). This involves people being cool people in general. They usually meet up at someone's house and all drive (in one or a few cars) from there to the club. Everyone drinks and dances together. After getting really horny, they all go back to the house they met up at. Since everyone is cool (aka they trust each other) and horny, they all pair off and hook up (secretly...but everyone knows whats going on, they just don't talk about it). Sometimes if a girl is horny enough she can be stolen (the less desirable male can steal a girl, if she is horny enough, off the good looking guy if he can get her to a private area and be discreet about it). You really just need one physically attractive guy to get all the girls in the group horny.
However, keep in mind, most women who let themselves end up in these situations are usually not quality women. But a lot of them will still be hot.
2.) Emotional Overdrive
Basically, you play boyfriend and girlfriend. This is usually very effective on most women (if she already likes you). This
article from post masculine does an excellent job at describing the process.
This strategy works very well with guys who girls find attractive (other than their body). You know the cool guy in high school all the girls liked. They all want him to be their boyfriend, but will gladly give it up to him (especially if he'll play the role of her boyfriend for the night) and she'll still chase after him after that.
I think Mark Manson is one of those guys.
3.) Using Your Head (aka the Weasel Move)
This one cracks me up, but it does work. And works very well if you use your head.
Before I describe it, examine this scenario. A random 6 (as in a score out of 10 when it comes to looks) out of the blue starts talking to you. She shows no sexual interest in you, but is friendly and enjoyable to be around. She asks for your help with something (you say sure and follow her) or you just continue your conversation and keep walking with her. But without realizing it you end up at her hotel room. You don't protest as you did promise to go with her or because it seems like you guys just happen to end up there. Then, in the middle of some fun conversation, she kisses you. Not just a quick kiss, but she keeps her lips, knees your groin, and her hands run all over her body. If she was a well known friend, you might push her off and tell her you two are just friends, but the novelty of this girl and the experience makes you want more. She even starts to take off her clothes while making out with you.
Since you know you face no consequences to your actions (she is just some stranger, your friends and other girls you know will never know about it), you're telling me you wouldn't have sex with her?
You lie! You would hit that.
She was being clever and you let your guard down.
This method is very popular for less attractive men and shorter guys. If you are a 5 or a 4, your confidence in approaching women will bring you up to a 6. From there you play it cool, until you can take advantage of her trust in you and weasel your way on to her before she can label you as just a friend or boyfriend material.
This method originally came from
Gunwitch. Google him, he's an ugly guy, but still got action. The more modern guy preaching this stuff is
Chase. (Still can't get over his "stop rating women" concept. So dumb and elitist.) His ideas of moving fast is pretty much the same as Gunwitch. Chase cleans up well, but he is not attractive, at least not compared to Skills or Mark.
And his overall strategy shows this. Chase says to never kiss a girl at the club (or at least not before you get her home), because you'll kill the sexual tension. Mark and Skills make out with women at the club and still have no problem taking them home. Chase says to stay away from the dance floor, while Skills' method is based entirely on the dance floor. Basically, Chase and Gunwitch can't pull off the strategies used by the other two guys. So they came up with this.
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Different strokes for different folks.
Each guy will say their way is the best. Bullshit. It isn't the best, it's best for them.
So use the strategy that works best for you.
Or you can stop this pick up stuff and
use a different strategy altogether.
P.S.
It looks like
Krauser PUA understands this (hey, I like your name buddy)
13. What you said doesn’t agree with Mystery / Style / Tyler / Roissy
Mystery and Style are bullshitters who wrote some good material and played a pivotal role in shaping the community but they were not good with women. Tyler is a fantastic analyst but strikes me as weird and not good with women. Roissy is a great writer but his brand of nihilistic game is better suited for where he shaped it – East coast metropolitan America.
Pick any pickup theorist and you’ll find any number of legitimate reasons why they’d disagree with me. They have a different personality, are working a different social mileau, target different girls, want different things, have different strengths and weaknesses etc. In other cases they don’t really disagree its just comparing apples to oranges. Read what you can and over time you’ll formulate your own game.
I don't know if I agree with him on what he said about the other PUAs (however, I do understand his frustration with their bullshit), but his overall message is right.
